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[redaktar] Debati
[redaktar] Betawiki: better support for your language in MediaWiki
Dear community. I am writing to you to promote a special wiki called Betawiki. This wiki facilitates the localisation (l10n) of the MediaWiki interface. You may have changed many messages here to use your language in the interface, but if you would log in to for example the English language Wiktionary, you would not be able to use the interface as well translated as here. Infact, of the 1798 messages in the core of MediaWiki, 48 messages have been translated. Betawiki also supports the translation of messages of almost 80 extensions, with about 1050 messages.
If you wish to contribute to better support of your language in MediaWiki, as well as for many MediaWiki extensions, please visit Betawiki, create an account and request translator priviledges. You can see the current status of localisation of your language on meta and do not forget to get in touch with others that may already be working on your language on Betawiki.
If you have any further questions, please let me know on my talk page on Betawiki. We will try and assist you as much as possible, for example by importing all messages from a local wiki for you to start with, if you so desire.
You can also find us on the Freenode IRC network in the channel #mediawiki-i18n where we would be happy to help you get started.
Thank you very much for your attention and I do hope to see some of you on Betawiki soon! Cheers! Siebrand@Betawiki 15:20, 7 di oktobro 2007 (UTC)
[redaktar] Namespaces
En angliana por omni (developer-i) komprenar
Dear Wiktionarians,
We already surfaced this discussion at Wikipedia, but I bring it here now. I propose changing the namespaces names in Wiktionary according to this list:
NS_MEDIA => 'Media',
NS_SPECIAL => 'Specala',
NS_MAIN => '',
NS_TALK => 'Diskuto',
NS_USER => 'Uzanto',
NS_USER_TALK => 'Uzanto_Diskuto',
NS_PROJECT => 'Wikivortaro'
NS_PROJECT_TALK => 'Wikivortaro_Diskuto',
NS_IMAGE => 'Imajo',
NS_IMAGE_TALK => 'Imajo_Diskuto',
NS_MEDIAWIKI => 'MediaWiki',
NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK => 'MediaWiki_Diskuto',
NS_TEMPLATE => 'Shablono',
NS_TEMPLATE_TALK => 'Shablono_Diskuto',
NS_HELP => 'Helpo',
NS_HELP_TALK => 'Helpo_Diskuto',
NS_CATEGORY => 'Kategorio',
NS_CATEGORY_TALK => 'Kategorio_Diskuto'
The project name should become Wikivortaro. The NS_MAIN namespace is to be kept empty (like in all Wikipedias and Wiktionaries). I already checked for possible name conflicts between old and new namespaces and found none (in Wikipedia, there is at least one problematic page). Therefore, everything is in order for a namespace translation to Ido. Even though this community is made mainly of 2 or 3 people, your support to this change has to be explicit here, so that developers can confirm it's a community decision and not a one-person's before proceeding with the change.
Please place your approvals (or non-approvals :) ) below this message as well as your comments if any. Thanks, Malafaya 14:39, 25 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- We already discussed about this formulation. This version is fine to me. If the word “Namespace” must be translated, it is in Ido “Nomaro” in which “nomo = name” and suffix -ar- means “group” (or so). – Admin Artomo 17:52, 25 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. Fafnir 20:16, 25 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- Me kreatabas nova demando en Bugzilla/I have created a new request at Bugzilla. Malafaya 20:35, 25 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. Landais 16:42, 28 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- The word “Namespace” must be translated in Ido by “Nomo-spaco” and the list of "Namesspaces/Nomospaci" must be :
NS_MEDIA => 'NS_MEDIA',
NS_SPECIAL => 'NS_SPECALA',
NS_MAIN => '',
NS_TALK => 'NS_DISKUTO',
NS_USER => 'NS_UZANTO',
NS_USER_TALK => 'NS_UZANTO_DISKUTO',
NS_PROJECT => 'NS_PROJETO'
NS_PROJECT_TALK => 'NS_PROJETO_DISKUTO',
NS_IMAGE => 'NS_IMAJO',
NS_IMAGE_TALK => 'NS_IMAJO_DISKUTO',
NS_MEDIAWIKI => 'NS_MEDIAWIKI',
NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK => 'NS_MEDIAWIKI_DISKUTO',
NS_TEMPLATE => 'NS_MODELO',
NS_TEMPLATE_TALK => 'NS_MODELO_DISKUTO',
NS_HELP => 'NS_HELPO',
NS_HELP_TALK => 'NS_HELPO_DISKUTO',
NS_CATEGORY => 'NS_KATEGORIO',
NS_CATEGORY_TALK => 'NS_KATEGORIO_DISKUTO'
- The above comment was posted by User:Landais
- Landais, do you know what is being discussed here? You translated the variables names! This is not what is intended. This list is a translation of the namespaces names (like Wiktionary, Template_talk, etc.) as in the MessagesXX.php files, not the variables names (which cannot be translated). As for the translation of the word namespace, it's not required here for namespaces names. Malafaya 17:19, 28 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
Sorry! Yes translate the namespaces names is more clear for me! Now it would be better to translate "Template" by "Modelo" en Ido than by "Shablono". Landais 02:43, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- Me prizas la vorto “shablono” en ica uzado. En Wikiala medio koncernanta utensilo esas stabila, ne-chanjebla formulizuro, qua aparas dum uzo sempre un-forme. Se on chanjas “shablono”, la chanjo eventas omnaloke. Kontraste “modelo” esas chanjebla segun bezono dil uzanto. Exemple en la frontispico esas “modelo dil pagino”, quan on povas uzar en tala formo o adaptar segun bezono. – Artomo 07:39, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- So, Landais, you agree with the others names but just not with the name for 'Template'. Actually, I'm with Artomo: 'Shablono' corresponds more exactly to the English word 'Template', and 'Modelo' is more like 'Model'. Maybe you are slightly biased towards Romance languages, as there is no exact word for 'Template' and it's common to use the word for 'Model' (i.e., 'Modèle' in French) in Wikis instead. It would be nice to have Fafnir's opinion as well... By the way, nice work at Betawiki, Landais :). Malafaya 10:34, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know if you guys already noticed but the namespaces names were updated today. Apparently, it has nothing to do with my request but simply with the update of localized messages from Betawiki. Some new translated text also appeared today (some of Landais's work at Betawiki). Only the project name change to Wikivortaro is missing. The namespaces were also changed at Wikipedio as a result of this update, but the project name was kept too as Wikipedia. So, as nobody opposes the name Wikivortaro for this Wiktionary, I guess that's it. --Malafaya 22:53, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- Dear fellow Wiktionarians, the project name is now Wikivortaro. Cheers, Malafaya 22:01, 1 di decembro 2007 (UTC)
[redaktar] VolkovBot
Me propozas donar la flago di roboto a VolkovBot. Olu polutas la pagino di Recenta Chanji ma facas bona laborado. Do, kun la flago, ni ne vidos olu pluse. Malafaya 16:41, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
Suporto --Malafaya 16:41, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)- Suporto. Lu ja facis multa bono. – Artomo 17:35, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
- Suporto Fafnir 18:52, 30 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
[redaktar] Exemption doctrine policy
Hello. As you might know, the Wikimedia Foundation approved a resolution concerning non-free images more than a year ago. The resolution says that unless Wikimedia projects create an exemption doctrine policy (EDP) for non-free images, all of those images shall be deleted by March 23, 2008 (which was yesterday). We'd now like to gather information from the projects about their exemption policies in one place so we can check their validity, and if images on those projects are in accordance with the Foundation's resolution. Your project is one of these we don't have information about, so it'd be great if you could add it to the page listing all EDPs, meta:Non-free_content. If you have any questions about the page or don't have an EDP yet and want one, you can use the appropriate talkpage on Meta or just contact me directly on Meta or by e-mail (however, please note that I'm just a volunteer and therefore not in a position to give any official advice). Thanks for your cooperation! Timichal 18:37, 24 di marto 2008 (UTC)
- Dear friend, We have not any images in this Wiktionary in Ido, so we have nothing to be deleted (free or non-free). Untill now we have not had any need of exemption policy. Do we now or can we go on just like before? - Artomo 07:20, 25 di marto 2008 (UTC)
- You don't need a policy in that case - but it might be useful and effective for your project to disable local uploads entirely and use files from Wikimedia Commons only. You wouldn't have to deal with file licensing problems in the future, and I personally think it's the best way for Wiktionaries (en.wiktionary has their uploads already disabled). If you think this would be a good idea, you could start a quick vote in your community - if they agree, I'll help you with the rest of the process.
- And by the way, you have two images here - Imajo:Un(1).PNG and Imajo:RokoPaperoCizo.jpg - but they aren't used anywhere and they don't have any license or source, so I think they can be safely deleted :) Good luck, Timichal 08:33, 25 di marto 2008 (UTC)
- I support disabling local uploads. MalafayaBot 16:55, 2 di mayo 2008 (UTC)
- Currently there are these 2 unused images here without any copyright info. Maybe they should be deleted. MalafayaBot 16:56, 2 di mayo 2008 (UTC)
[redaktar] Uzanto:MalafayaBot
Me demandas la flago di roboto pri mea roboto MalafayaBot. Olu permutos la interwiki-i inter Wikivortari. Danko! MalafayaBot 16:55, 2 di mayo 2008 (UTC)
- Suporto - I support this Bot / Me suportas ca Bot. – (sysop) Artomo 06:47, 3 di mayo 2008 (UTC)
Mea roboto havas nun la flago. Danko! Malafaya 10:20, 9 di mayo 2008 (UTC)
[redaktar] Adkargo di arkivi sur Idala Wikivortaro
Me propozas nekapabligar (disable) la adkargo di arkivi en ica Wikivortaro. Malafaya 16:04, 3 di mayo 2008 (UTC)
