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[redaktar] Pri la historio dil Idala Wikivortaro

Kelka punti de la historio di Wikivortaro esas hike.

[redaktar] Facenda taski por omni

La linguale helpinda pagini esas hike.
La linguale revizinda pagini esas hike.
La pagini qui bezonas tradukar esas hike.

[redaktar] Debati

[redaktar] Betawiki: better support for your language in MediaWiki

Dear community. I am writing to you to promote a special wiki called Betawiki. This wiki facilitates the localisation (l10n) of the MediaWiki interface. You may have changed many messages here to use your language in the interface, but if you would log in to for example the English language Wiktionary, you would not be able to use the interface as well translated as here. Infact, of the 1798 messages in the core of MediaWiki, 48 messages have been translated. Betawiki also supports the translation of messages of almost 80 extensions, with about 1050 messages.

If you wish to contribute to better support of your language in MediaWiki, as well as for many MediaWiki extensions, please visit Betawiki, create an account and request translator priviledges. You can see the current status of localisation of your language on meta and do not forget to get in touch with others that may already be working on your language on Betawiki.

If you have any further questions, please let me know on my talk page on Betawiki. We will try and assist you as much as possible, for example by importing all messages from a local wiki for you to start with, if you so desire.

You can also find us on the Freenode IRC network in the channel #mediawiki-i18n where we would be happy to help you get started.

Thank you very much for your attention and I do hope to see some of you on Betawiki soon! Cheers! Siebrand@Betawiki 15:20, 7 di oktobro 2007 (UTC)

[redaktar] Namespaces

En angliana por omni (developer-i) komprenar

Dear Wiktionarians,

We already surfaced this discussion at Wikipedia, but I bring it here now. I propose changing the namespaces names in Wiktionary according to this list:

	NS_MEDIA            => 'Media',
	NS_SPECIAL          => 'Specala',
	NS_MAIN             => '',
	NS_TALK             => 'Diskuto',
	NS_USER             => 'Uzanto',
	NS_USER_TALK        => 'Uzanto_Diskuto',
	NS_PROJECT          => 'Wikivortaro'
	NS_PROJECT_TALK     => 'Wikivortaro_Diskuto',
	NS_IMAGE            => 'Imajo',
	NS_IMAGE_TALK       => 'Imajo_Diskuto',
	NS_MEDIAWIKI        => 'MediaWiki',
	NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   => 'MediaWiki_Diskuto',
	NS_TEMPLATE         => 'Shablono',
	NS_TEMPLATE_TALK    => 'Shablono_Diskuto',
	NS_HELP             => 'Helpo',
	NS_HELP_TALK        => 'Helpo_Diskuto',
	NS_CATEGORY         => 'Kategorio',
	NS_CATEGORY_TALK    => 'Kategorio_Diskuto'

The project name should become Wikivortaro. The NS_MAIN namespace is to be kept empty (like in all Wikipedias and Wiktionaries). I already checked for possible name conflicts between old and new namespaces and found none (in Wikipedia, there is at least one problematic page). Therefore, everything is in order for a namespace translation to Ido. Even though this community is made mainly of 2 or 3 people, your support to this change has to be explicit here, so that developers can confirm it's a community decision and not a one-person's before proceeding with the change.
Please place your approvals (or non-approvals :) ) below this message as well as your comments if any. Thanks, Malafaya 14:39, 25 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

We already discussed about this formulation. This version is fine to me. If the word “Namespace” must be translated, it is in Ido “Nomaro” in which “nomo = name” and suffix -ar- means “group” (or so). – Admin Artomo 17:52, 25 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Fafnir 20:16, 25 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

Me kreatabas nova demando en Bugzilla/I have created a new request at Bugzilla. Malafaya 20:35, 25 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. Landais 16:42, 28 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

The word “Namespace” must be translated in Ido by “Nomo-spaco” and the list of "Namesspaces/Nomospaci" must be :

	NS_MEDIA            => 'NS_MEDIA',
	NS_SPECIAL          => 'NS_SPECALA',
	NS_MAIN             => '',
	NS_TALK             => 'NS_DISKUTO',
	NS_USER             => 'NS_UZANTO',
	NS_USER_TALK        => 'NS_UZANTO_DISKUTO',
	NS_PROJECT          => 'NS_PROJETO'
	NS_PROJECT_TALK     => 'NS_PROJETO_DISKUTO',
	NS_IMAGE            => 'NS_IMAJO',
	NS_IMAGE_TALK       => 'NS_IMAJO_DISKUTO',
	NS_MEDIAWIKI        => 'NS_MEDIAWIKI',
	NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK   => 'NS_MEDIAWIKI_DISKUTO',
	NS_TEMPLATE         => 'NS_MODELO',
	NS_TEMPLATE_TALK    => 'NS_MODELO_DISKUTO',
	NS_HELP             => 'NS_HELPO',
	NS_HELP_TALK        => 'NS_HELPO_DISKUTO',
	NS_CATEGORY         => 'NS_KATEGORIO',
	NS_CATEGORY_TALK    => 'NS_KATEGORIO_DISKUTO'

The above comment was posted by User:Landais

Landais, do you know what is being discussed here? You translated the variables names! This is not what is intended. This list is a translation of the namespaces names (like Wiktionary, Template_talk, etc.) as in the MessagesXX.php files, not the variables names (which cannot be translated). As for the translation of the word namespace, it's not required here for namespaces names. Malafaya 17:19, 28 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

Sorry! Yes translate the namespaces names is more clear for me! Now it would be better to translate "Template" by "Modelo" en Ido than by "Shablono". Landais 02:43, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

Me prizas la vorto “shablono” en ica uzado. En Wikiala medio koncernanta utensilo esas stabila, ne-chanjebla formulizuro, qua aparas dum uzo sempre un-forme. Se on chanjas “shablono”, la chanjo eventas omnaloke. Kontraste “modelo” esas chanjebla segun bezono dil uzanto. Exemple en la frontispico esas “modelo dil pagino”, quan on povas uzar en tala formo o adaptar segun bezono. – Artomo 07:39, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

So, Landais, you agree with the others names but just not with the name for 'Template'. Actually, I'm with Artomo: 'Shablono' corresponds more exactly to the English word 'Template', and 'Modelo' is more like 'Model'. Maybe you are slightly biased towards Romance languages, as there is no exact word for 'Template' and it's common to use the word for 'Model' (i.e., 'Modèle' in French) in Wikis instead. It would be nice to have Fafnir's opinion as well... By the way, nice work at Betawiki, Landais :). Malafaya 10:34, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if you guys already noticed but the namespaces names were updated today. Apparently, it has nothing to do with my request but simply with the update of localized messages from Betawiki. Some new translated text also appeared today (some of Landais's work at Betawiki). Only the project name change to Wikivortaro is missing. The namespaces were also changed at Wikipedio as a result of this update, but the project name was kept too as Wikipedia. So, as nobody opposes the name Wikivortaro for this Wiktionary, I guess that's it. --Malafaya 22:53, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

Dear fellow Wiktionarians, the project name is now Wikivortaro. Cheers, Malafaya 22:01, 1 di decembro 2007 (UTC)

[redaktar] VolkovBot

Me propozas donar la flago di roboto a VolkovBot. Olu polutas la pagino di Recenta Chanji ma facas bona laborado. Do, kun la flago, ni ne vidos olu pluse. Malafaya 16:41, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

Suporto --Malafaya 16:41, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
Suporto. Lu ja facis multa bono. – Artomo 17:35, 29 di novembro 2007 (UTC)
Suporto Fafnir 18:52, 30 di novembro 2007 (UTC)

[redaktar] Exemption doctrine policy

Hello. As you might know, the Wikimedia Foundation approved a resolution concerning non-free images more than a year ago. The resolution says that unless Wikimedia projects create an exemption doctrine policy (EDP) for non-free images, all of those images shall be deleted by March 23, 2008 (which was yesterday). We'd now like to gather information from the projects about their exemption policies in one place so we can check their validity, and if images on those projects are in accordance with the Foundation's resolution. Your project is one of these we don't have information about, so it'd be great if you could add it to the page listing all EDPs, meta:Non-free_content. If you have any questions about the page or don't have an EDP yet and want one, you can use the appropriate talkpage on Meta or just contact me directly on Meta or by e-mail (however, please note that I'm just a volunteer and therefore not in a position to give any official advice). Thanks for your cooperation! Timichal 18:37, 24 di marto 2008 (UTC)

Dear friend, We have not any images in this Wiktionary in Ido, so we have nothing to be deleted (free or non-free). Untill now we have not had any need of exemption policy. Do we now or can we go on just like before? - Artomo 07:20, 25 di marto 2008 (UTC)

You don't need a policy in that case - but it might be useful and effective for your project to disable local uploads entirely and use files from Wikimedia Commons only. You wouldn't have to deal with file licensing problems in the future, and I personally think it's the best way for Wiktionaries (en.wiktionary has their uploads already disabled). If you think this would be a good idea, you could start a quick vote in your community - if they agree, I'll help you with the rest of the process.

And by the way, you have two images here - Imajo:Un(1).PNG and Imajo:RokoPaperoCizo.jpg - but they aren't used anywhere and they don't have any license or source, so I think they can be safely deleted :) Good luck, Timichal 08:33, 25 di marto 2008 (UTC)

I support disabling local uploads. MalafayaBot 16:55, 2 di mayo 2008 (UTC)

Currently there are these 2 unused images here without any copyright info. Maybe they should be deleted. MalafayaBot 16:56, 2 di mayo 2008 (UTC)

[redaktar] Uzanto:MalafayaBot

Me demandas la flago di roboto pri mea roboto MalafayaBot. Olu permutos la interwiki-i inter Wikivortari. Danko! MalafayaBot 16:55, 2 di mayo 2008 (UTC)

Suporto - I support this Bot / Me suportas ca Bot. – (sysop) Artomo 06:47, 3 di mayo 2008 (UTC)

Mea roboto havas nun la flago. Danko! Malafaya 10:20, 9 di mayo 2008 (UTC)

[redaktar] Adkargo di arkivi sur Idala Wikivortaro

Me propozas nekapabligar (disable) la adkargo di arkivi en ica Wikivortaro. Malafaya 16:04, 3 di mayo 2008 (UTC)

Suporto --Malafaya 16:05, 3 di mayo 2008 (UTC)
Suporto - (sysop) Artomo 12:24, 5 di mayo 2008 (UTC)

[redaktar] Uzanto:Luckas-bot

Hello. I'm requesting a bot flag here to maintain interwiki links. It uses pywikipediabot updated via SVN. Here is a complete list of edits and accounts. Thanks. Luckas Blade 21:15, 21 di novembro 2008 (UTC)

[redaktar] mis-korekta tradukuro, segun me

Che Specala:SpecialPages sub "Redirecting special pages", yen:
"Pagino hazarde" e
"Ridirektilo hazarde".
Me judikas ke "hazarde" es mis-korekta. Me konsideras ke "chance" es korekta: "Pagino chance" o "Ridirektilo chance".
Ka vi konkordas?
-Humilulo (Shawn KOVAC) 2008-11-23 14:32 UTC (14:32, 23 di novembro 2008)

[redaktar] Uzanto:RoggBot

Me demandas la flago di roboto pri mea roboto RoggBot. Olu permutos la interwiki-i inter Wikivortari. Danko!

Hello. I'm requesting a bot flag here to maintain interwiki links. It uses pywikipediabot updated via SVN. Here is a complete list of edits and accounts. Thanks. --Roggy 20:28, 9 di januaro 2009 (UTC)

Suporto – Artomo 16:01, 31 di januaro 2009 (UTC)

[redaktar] Uzanto:Interwicket

Bot flag request

Owner/runner: en:User:Robert Ullmann
Language/platform: Python, part of "wikipedia framework", MW API
Code: en:User:Interwicket/code
Status/edits on wikts: en:User:Interwicket/FL status

Bot is written to use the Mediawiki API, which is much more effective than the wikipedia pybot framework; it does use the framework module for language links, to stay up with changes in wikt policies (that are included there, some are not!).

It's primary function is to keep all the en.wikt links up to date, here it will be adding reciprocal links to the en.wikt when a link is added there; it is generally a good idea to keep these symmetrical. This is part of a project to develop interwiki code specifically for the wiktionaries. It also adds any other valid links it has found and removes any known to be invalid.

There are two functions: one builds an index of all of the wikts (without reading any pages, it uses the MW API to read the indexes), and then checks every en.wikt entry to correct the iwikis (again, without reading any pages except the ones being changed). While doing this, if it adds a link to another wikt, it will add the corresponding link there (here). The other function follows "recent changes" on all of the wikts, and adds needed links to the en.wikt, and likewise the corresponding link. While en.wikt policy is to link to redirects, in no case does Interwicket add links from another wikt to a redirect in the en.wikt.

It has done a number of tests here, in a test mode where it makes edits only once every few hours (on average). Robert Ullmann 09:09, 31 di januaro 2009 (UTC)

Suporto - Artomo 16:02, 31 di januaro 2009 (UTC)

Bot flagged by stewards, thank you, Robert Ullmann 13:31, 10 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

[redaktar] Uzanto:SpaceBirdyBot

Hello, I left my request at Wikivortaro:Bots, because special:listbots links to that page, please consider it, and if the bot has too much traffic without botflag, please drop me a line at is:Notandaspjall:Spacebirdy or special:emailuser/Spacebirdy, thanks and best regards, --ucelo _{(:> )=|} 23:59, 2 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

Suporto - Sorry, I didn't notice your request earlier. - Artomo 17:55, 10 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

[redaktar] Quo es korekta?

Antarktika od antarktika? Malafaya 22:41, 10 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

Me ne esas certa, kad en Ido existas vorto Antarktika (qua esus bezonata), ma antarktika esas adjektivo ed ol koncernas kozo qua relatas a sud-polo di Tero. Ka Yahoo-listani savus plu bone? (Ica komuneso-pagino forsan ne esas maxim bona loko questionar, pro ke me ofte oblivias vizitar la loko.) - Artomo 09:11, 11 di februaro 2009 (UTC)==

[redaktar] E od ed?

Ante y, quo esas uzata: e od ed? Danko, Malafaya 13:53, 15 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

[redaktar] Efacez

Voluntez, efacez MediaWiki:Summary. Danko, Malafaya 00:59, 16 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

Pro quo efacar? (Tu povas uzar anke {{efacenda}}, qua adjuntas la demando en la listo pri efacenda pagini.) - Artomo 07:01, 16 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

Ol esas "outdated" (missing colon). On ne devas adjuntar {{efacenda}} pro ol esas sistemo-mesajo. Malafaya 17:11, 16 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

La vorto “Rezumo” esas sempre videbla avan la buxeto, kande on redaktas ula pagino hike en Wikivortaro. Ka la vorto “Rezumo” desaparos se me efacus MediaWiki:Summary? - Artomo 07:31, 17 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

No, ul ne desaparos. La "default"-mesajo (Rezumo:, kun bi-punto), e korekta mesajo, aparos. (Quale esas "default" en Ido?) Malafaya 11:16, 17 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

O.K. (Pri "default" me ne savas. Ka "manko, ne-existo"?) - Artomo 13:35, 17 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

[redaktar] interwiki

Bonjour. Je voudrais savoir le différence entre les pages Kategorio:Idala vorti et Kategorio:Ido. Je voudrais aussi faire un lien vers Wiktionary et Wiktionnaire. Pouvez-vous m'aider ?--Agricoleur 08:57, 22 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

Pardonez, me ne komprenas la Franciana. Forsan tu skribez en l' Angliana. (Answer? = in "Idala vorti" there are the words of the Ido only, en "Ido" all the stuff about the Ido.) - Amikale Artomo 12:37, 22 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

[redaktar] Wikimania 2009

English: Wikimania 2009, this year's global event devoted to Wikimedia projects around the globe, is accepting submissions for presentations, workshops, panels, posters, open space discussions, and artistic works related to the Wikimedia projects or free content topics in general. The conference will be held from August 26-28 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. For more information, check the official Call for Participation. Cbrown1023 18:13, 22 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

Ido: Please translate this message into your language. Cbrown1023 18:13, 22 di februaro 2009 (UTC)

Wikimania 2009, cayarala evento omnaterala, qua esas dedikita a Wikimedia-projeti omnaloke sur Tero, aceptas propozaji por propocizioni, laboreyi, debateyi, prizentili, extera diskuteji ed artala verki, qui esas konektita a Wikimedia-projeti o generale a temi kun libera kontenajo. La konfero eventas inter 26ma e 28ma di Agosto en Buenos Aires, Arjentinia. Por recevar plusa informaciono, vizitez l’ oficala Invitilo pri partopreno.

[redaktar] Propozo pri nova frontispico

Videz versiono da Wyvernoid.

[redaktar] Wikimania 2009: Scholarships

English: Wikimania 2009, this year's global event devoted to Wikimedia projects around the globe, is now accepting applications for scholarships to the conference. This year's conference will be handled from August 26-28 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The scholarship can be used to help offset the costs of travel and registration. For more information, check the official information page. Please remember that the Call for Participation is still open, please submit your papers! Without submissions, Wikimania would not be nearly as fun!

Ido: Please translate this message into your language. - Rjd0060 02:12, 9 di aprilo 2009 (UTC)

[redaktar] Demando por Administranto yuro por User:Wyvernoid

Me volas demandar administranto yuro che Idala Wikivortaro por helpar la developado di ca projekto. Me havas experienco kom administranto di wiki, e me deziras helpar plubonigar la Idala Wikivortaro. Voluntez expresar vua opinioni hike; me registragos demando che meta se nulu diferas. Danko ed amikale! Wyvernoid (debato · Videz!) 05:41, 29 di aprilo 2009 (UTC)

Suporto - Artomo 06:17, 29 di aprilo 2009 (UTC)

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